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2014 – Former Vice President Cheney continues to

 
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Posted by on December 18, 2014 in Torture

 

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Cheney’s Still Justifying Torture V 2.0?

The Associated Press (AP) is reporting that Former Vice President Dick Cheney says there’s no contradiction in advocating harsh interrogation tactics against suspected U.S. enemies and opposing those practices when used against American citizens.

Excuse me? Cheney is insane; anyone who thinks the United States can torture prisoners and then complain when someone tortures Americans is certifiable. This is one of the biggest reasons – up until the dip stick brothers took office aka Bush/Cheney – why American personnel didn’t torture prisoners, along with the fact it’s in violation of U.S. and International laws; such as the Geneva Convention, of which the U.S. is a signatory. Plus, WE’RE THE GOOD GUYS! We don’t torture people!

Cheney was asked about a hypothetical case in which Iran would decide to use water boarding on an American suspected of spying.

Cheney replies, “I think we would object on the grounds that we have obligations to our citizens.”

And how far would any of our complaints go now? Absolutely no where because Cheney and Company thought it was a great idea; of course what would you expect from someone who was too busy collecting deferments to ever serve in uniform?
Cheney was asked on NBC’s “Today” show if he was embracing a double-standard, he said, “These are not American citizens.”

Again, Cheney has proven he’s insane. IT’S IN VIOLATION OF THE FRICKING GENEVA CONVENTION MORON! I – and countless others who currently wear, or have worn, our country’s uniforms – used to be able to proudly say, “American soldiers don’t torture,” but we can’t say it anymore. Now the best we can say is, “Currently, American soldiers don’t torture”.

In the interview, Cheney also conceded he’d been a lightning rod for criticism during the Bush administration. “I’m Darth Vader,” he said.

News flash Skippy, Darth Vader wasn’t the hero, he brought countless suffering upon millions and was the epitome of evil – oh wait, that describes you perfectly; but hold on; you can’t be Darth Vader because he served in uniform, and actually fought for his country, he didn’t seek countless deferments; maybe you can be Darth Obtusus?

It’s understood this is probably Obtusus’ last go round, his last attempt to set the record straight, to try to justify why he was “evil”; I know, “it’s all because he loves his country so darned much”. Unfortunately for Lord Obtusus, I don’t think his explanation is playing very well to anyone who doesn’t watch FOX – and I’m pretty sure that channel isn’t watched in heaven.

 
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Posted by on September 7, 2011 in Torture

 

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Cheney’s Still Justifying Torture?

The Associated Press (AP) is reporting that Former Vice President Dick Cheney says there’s no contradiction in advocating harsh interrogation tactics against suspected U.S. enemies and opposing those practices when used against American citizens.

Excuse me? Cheney is insane; anyone who thinks the United States can torture prisoners and then complain when someone tortures Americans is certifiable. This is one of the biggest reasons why – up until the dip stick brothers took office aka Bush/Cheney – why American personnel didn’t torture prisoners, along with the fact it’s in violation of US and International laws; such as the Geneva Convention, of which the US is a signatory.

Cheney was asked about a hypothetical case in which Iran would decide to use waterboarding on an American suspected of spying.

Cheney replies, “I think we would object on the grounds that we have obligations to our citizens.”

And how far would any of our complaints go now? Absolutely no where because Cheney and Company thought it was a great idea; of course what would expect from someone who was too busy collecting deferments to ever serve in uniform?

Cheney was asked on NBC’s “Today” show if he was embracing a double-standard, he said, “These are not American citizens.”

Again, Cheney has proven he’s insane. IT’S IN VIOLATION OF THE FRICKING GENEVA CONVENTION MORON! I – and countless others who currently wear, or have worn, our country’s uniforms – used to be able to proudly say, “American soldiers don’t torture,” but we can’t say it anymore.

In the interview, Cheney also conceded he’d been a lightning rod for criticism during the Bush administration. “I’m Darth Vader,” he said.

News flash Skippy, Darth Vader wasn’t the hero, he brought countless suffering upon millions and was the epitome of evil – oh wait, that describes you perfectly, please just go away. Oh, and by-the-by, I don’t think your explanation is playing very well to anyone who doesn’t watch FOX – and I’m pretty sure, I mean it’s just a guess, God doesn’t watch FOX; the whole concept of a Rupert Murdoch news agency flies in the face of that whole bearing false witness thing …

 
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Posted by on August 30, 2011 in Torture

 

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Torture is wrong

Article 27, Fourth Geneva Convention – of which the United States of America is a signatory …

“Protected persons are entitled, in all circumstances, to respect for their persons, their honour, their family rights, their religious convictions and practices, and their manners and customs. They shall, at all times, be humanely treated, and shall be protected, especially against all acts of violence or threats thereof and against insults and public curiosity. Women shall be especially protected against any attack on their honour, in particular against rape, enforced prostitution, or any form of indecent assault. Without prejudice to the provisions relating to their state of health, age and sex, all protected persons shall be treated with the same consideration by the Party to the conflict in whose power they are, without any adverse distinction based, in particular, on race, religion or political opinion. However, the Parties to the conflict may take such measures of control and security in regard to protected persons as may be necessary as a result of the war. ”

“Protected persons” are prisoners … that’s all. That’s anyone we’ve taken prisoner … anyone …

My 18-year-old uncle – S1C John William Lambert – was brutally tortured, murdered and hacked to pieces by members of the Imperial Army of Japan … we – the United States – were able to sentence those responsible for his death for war crimes because we did not treat prisoners in the same manner that his captors treated him. The US took the high road … it stood for something …

If bothers me deeply when Americans talk so lightly about how “enhanced interrogation” is OK, because the ends justify the means.

It bothers me that Floridians elected a man to Congress in 2010 who was forced to retire from the US Army for threatening to kill a prisoner, and then firing his side arm next to the prisoner’s head – in violation of of both UCMJ and the Geneva Conventions.

It bothers me when the justification is that the enemy torture our soldiers if they’re taken prisoner …

“If we adopt the ways of the Nazis, we’re as bad as the Nazis” or for Americans who think it’s justified, “If we adopt the ways of Al Queda, we’re as bad as Al Queda”

 
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Posted by on May 17, 2011 in Torture

 

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McCain Says Torture Did Not Lead To Osama Bin Laden?

Former POW, and the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, says the so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques” – aka TORTURE – were not a factor in the discovery of Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts and he condemned the use of any form of torture.

In a speech on the Senate floor, John McCain said waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques are not necessary in any kind of interrogation conducted by United States personnel.

“It was not torture, or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of detainees that got us the major leads that ultimately enabled our intelligence community to find Osama bin Laden,” he said.

The former Presidential candidate said former Bush Attorney General Michael Mukasey was wrong when he claimed harsh interrogation had led to bin Laden. McCain said he had spoken to CIA Director Leon Panetta and got “the facts” on what really led to bin Laden’s demise. And guess what? The facts contradicted Mukasey’s claim.

“I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda.

“In fact, the use of ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information. He specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married and ceased his role as an al-Qaeda facilitator — none of which was true. According to the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in al-Qaeda and his true relationship to bin Laden — was obtained through standard, noncoercive means.”

McCain, prisoner of war for five and a half years in North Vietnam, said the U.S. should not compromise its deepest values by using torture.

It’s gratifying to see someone as senior and experienced as John McCain speaking out on torture, and how it has no place in interrogation used by the United States. Hopefully this will to silence those on the far right who think it’s perfectly OK for our country to violate international law, and our own laws. But, that’s probably just wishful thinking.

 
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Posted by on May 12, 2011 in Torture

 

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Did the United States of America Torture Prisoners?

During the Bush Administration’s “War on Terror” did United States personnel torture, or abuse, prisoners in violation of international treaties prohibiting such torture or abuse?

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This prisoner had electric wires attached to his genitals, and was forced to stand like this for hours. If he dropped his arms or moved from the box, he was shocked.

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Why would American soldiers take a prisoner, strip him of his clothes, and then threaten him with guard dogs?

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Stripping a prisoner; forcing woman’s underwear on his head, and tying him to a metal bunk. The purpose of this interrogation technique would be?

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Forcing prisoners to lie on top of each other naked. This would be necessary because?

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And here we have an example of the non-torture technique known as waterboarding.

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Forcing an injured prisoner to lie naked on the cement floor. This is humane treatment of the wounded?

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And the purpose of tying a prisoner, naked and upside from a metal bunk would be?

The above images point out quite clearly that American personnel, under the Bush Administration, committed criminal acts in violation of international treaties regarding the humane treatment of prisoners. There is no valid reason for this. Someone ordered our country off of this cliff, and the only way to place the United States back on the moral high ground is to investigate, prosecute and punish those responsible.

 
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Posted by on May 19, 2009 in Torture

 

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Jack Ryan, Your Country Could Have Used You

This evening, listening as the contents of memo after memo was read, revealing how dark, sinister and twisted the Bush Administration really was when it came to authorizing and using torture, I found myself hoping there was just one hero. Just one person in either the Defense Department or the CIA who on some level said no; who on some level said, “This is wrong”; someone like Tom Clancy’s hero Jack Ryan.

But as the memos keep arriving, and as the digging goes deeper, the realization sets in that there were no Jack Ryans, or John Clarks, in the Bush Administration, just room after room and department after department of Robert Ritters and James Cutters.

I shed the first of many tears this evening, as I heard how torture was used to trump up the so-called 9-11/Iraq connection in order to justify America’s invasion of the latter. I cried for my friends, my comrades, my brothers and sisters, who have paid the last full measure of devotion in defense of their country believing in their leaders. Believing in men and women who are not worthy to lace up the boots of those they sent off to die.

I cried as I realized that unless my country prosecutes those responsible to the fullest extent of the law we will forever be stained with this abuse of power, this abuse of trust, this abuse of all that was good and sacred in our country.

I cried when I realized that unless there is a Jack Ryan out there somewhere, who stood up and said no; then my country, and all for which has stood for two hundred years is gone, and everything that is left behind is a mere shadow; an after thought of what it was before.

Jack Ryan, your country could have used you.

 
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Posted by on April 23, 2009 in Torture

 

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