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Where is the dividing line?

I have some questions, and I’m not trying to pick a fight, these are legitimate questions:

Calling marriage a civil union changes it how?

My parents were not married by a priest, or a bishop, they were married by a Justice of the Peace. Was that a civil union, or a marriage?

A man and woman can be married, but a woman and woman or a man and a man can only be joined in a civil union, but both will have the exact same legal restrictions and benefits attached, so it’s just a name thing?

If marriage is a religious sacrament, then can it only be performed by someone appointed to do so by religions, and if so why do those performing a religious sacrament have to be recognized by the state (government) for it to be accepted by the state?

Clearly marriage is not only a religious sacrament, but an act of the state as well. I had to get a marriage license from the state of Maryland before I could be married (sealed) in the Washington DC Temple to my wife; so, which is it, a religious sacrament or a civil act of the state?

Do we – as a nation – change the term marriage so it means only the act performed by religious authority, and if performed by anyone else it’s a civil union? And which religions do we recognize to be legally able to perform this rite?

Same sex relationships are taught by almost every religion to be sinful, but in the United States of America we have a clearly defined separation of Church and State, which by-the-way, protects not only the civil population from a state proscribed religion but the state – and hence the civil population – from religious theocratic rule. If we, as a people, proscribe marriage based on religious definition upon the civil population, what else will we proscribe thence, and which religion gets to be the determining authority? Which brand of Christianity gets to rule the nation from behind the curtain, or which group of religions? Is this not the beginnings of the dreaded Sharia Law as practiced by some in the world of Islam?

What other rules from the Old Testament do we proscribe upon the civil population? Do we – as parents – get to stone our children if they are disobedient? Do we kill the man who plants two different crops side by side? Do we kill those who break the Sabbath?

What is the dividing line between theocratic rule and our constitutionally established democratic republic?

 
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Posted by on May 10, 2012 in 2012 Election

 

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O’Donnell criticizes Romney’s faith?

According to news reports MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell has decided it’s OK to go after Republican Tea Party (GOTP) presidential hopeful Willard Mitt Romney on the basis of his religion and last week he called Mormonism an “invented religion.”

Reportedly O’Donnell criticized the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, making insanely inaccurate claims about the church’s founding and attacking Willard for believing in Mormonism.

“Mormonism was created by a guy in upstate New York in 1830 when he got caught having sex with the maid and explained to his wife that God told him to do it,” O’Donnell said on his MSNBC show. “Forty-eight wives later, Joseph Smith’s lifestyle was completely sanctified in the religion he invented to go with it. Which Mitt Romney says he believes.”

O’Donnell, whom I thought was brighter than this, has stepped off in Glenn Beck zone of television commentary.

I hate to say it, and I do mean I hate to say it, but I find myself agreeing with FOX PAC’s Bill O’Reilly, who responded to O’Donnell’s “smear” comments by saying if O’Donnell had done the same about Islam or another religion, he would’ve been immediately fired. While I agree with O’Reilly partly, I disagree partly, because if O’Donnell said the same things about Islam he’d have been offered a show at FOX.

O’Donnell clearly knows there’s no religious test for holding political office in the United States, and he also knows a cheap shot when he throws one; with all there is to criticize Willard Mitt Romney on he chooses to pick on his faith?

It’s beneath him, and the way O’Donnell’s going after the Mormon Church one can only assume he has a monstrous size axe to grind; whatever the problem, it’s not good journalism; it’s not good political commentary; and it’s not good to leap into the political gutter next to the race baiting, religious haters.

 
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Posted by on April 9, 2012 in 2012 Election

 

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Limbaugh backed Kony

To demonstrate how badly Rush Limbaugh’s infected with Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS) here’s a little transcript of Limbaugh actually supporting war criminal Joseph Kony.

From Limbaugh’s 14 Oct 11 broadcast: “Lord’s Resistance Army are Christians.  They are fighting the Muslims in Sudan. And Obama has sent troops, United States troops to remove them from the battlefield, which means kill them. That’s what the lingo means, “to help regional forces remove from the battlefield,” meaning capture or kill.

“So that’s a new war, a hundred troops to wipe out Christians in Sudan, Uganda, and — (interruption) no, I’m not kidding. Jacob Tapper just reported it.  Now, are we gonna help the Egyptians wipe out the Christians?  Wouldn’t you say that we are?  I mean the Coptic Christians are being wiped out, but it wasn’t just Obama that supported that.  It was our — the conservative intelligentsia thought it was an outbreak of democracy. Now they’ve done a 180 on that, but they forgot that they supported it in the first place.  Now they’re criticizing it.

“Lord’s Resistance Army objectives.  I have them here. “To remove dictatorship and stop the oppression of our people.” Now, again Lord’s Resistance Army is who Obama sent troops to help nations wipe out. The objectives of the Lord’s Resistance Army, what they’re trying to accomplish with their military action in these countries is the following:  ‘To remove dictatorship and stop the oppression of our people; to fight for the immediate restoration of competitive multiparty democracy in Uganda; to see an end to gross violation of human rights and dignity of Ugandans; to ensure the restoration of peace and security in Uganda, to ensure unity, sovereignty, and economic prosperity beneficial to all Ugandans, and to bring to an end the repressive policy of deliberate marginalization of groups of people who may not agree with the LRA ideology.’ Those are the objectives of the group that we are fighting, or who are being fought and we are joining in the effort to remove them from the battlefield.”

This demonstrates two things:

First, Limbaugh hates the President so much he’s willing to support a murdering war criminal in order to criticize him.

Second, it demonstrates quite clearly Limbaugh’s real ignorance of what’s going on in the world.

Rush is a hack, he makes stuff up in order to win ratings, and he lies habitually about the President due to his chronic ODS.

 
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Posted by on March 14, 2012 in Right Wing Radio

 

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Cut down the forest of hypocrisy …

Christian conservatives are screaming about contraception being forced on them by the President, but refuse to condemn Rush Limbaugh for saying vile and degrading things about women.

Don’t preach “family values” to me until I see you condemn Limbaugh.

Don’t preach “religious” freedom to me until you condemn Limbaugh

Don’t claim to be the “moral” majority until you condemn Limbaugh.

You scream about “values” and about “religion” and then allow someone like this to be your hero; to be your spokesman?

You call someone a hero who calls a young woman a “slut” and “prostitute” and who attacks her for three full broadcast days, more than 9 hours of accusations and vilifying, asking to see the videos of her alleged promiscuity?

Want to know where the GOTP candidates really stand on “family values” and how they view women?

As a Latter-day Saint, where’s Mitt Romney’s outrage?

As Catholics, where’s Rick Santorum’s and Newt Gingrich’s outrage?

I’m sorry, I can’t see your “values” because there’s a forest of hypocrisy in my way.

Do what’s right conservatives and then come talk to me …

 
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Posted by on March 7, 2012 in Women's Rights

 

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Cain says Tennessee mosque would spread Islamic law?

Republican/Tea Party (GOTP) presidential candidate Herman Cain reportedly opposes a planned Tennessee mosque that has been the subject of protests and legal challenges, and told reporters he’s concerned about the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro.

“It is an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion,” he said. “And I don’t agree with what’s happening, because this isn’t an innocent mosque.”

Wow, the Mosque isn’t innocent? Someone should tell Mr. Cain that a mosque is a building, and in general, buildings can’t be good or evil, innocent or guilty; and exactly how does the building of a mosque infringe on your freedom of religion Mr. Cain?

As seems to be an ongoing theme for the far right fringe, the new mosque has been the subject of protests and out cries from the uber-religious Tea Party.

A county judge recently ruled the mosque construction does not harm the residents who sued to try to stop it, but he allowed them to move forward on claims the county violated an open meetings law in approving it.

Of course conservative Christian opponents have used the hearings to argue the mosque is part of a plot to expand Islamic extremism in the U.S. and the Pizza Man agreed, demonstrating once again his racist side when it comes to Muslims.

“It is another example of why I believe in American laws and American courts,” he said. “This is just another way to try to gradually sneak Shariah law into our laws, and I absolutely object to that.”

Cain clearly at some time got some bad beef or something, and his ignorance is showing. It is amazing how these so-called Christians scream about Shariah law, while denying others the freedom of religion guaranteed under the Constitution they claim to love and revere. They love to scream about Islamic abuses while abusing the religious rights of others. Pretty sure they – and Cain – would fall into the category of hypocrites spoken of by the Savior.

 
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Posted by on July 14, 2011 in 2012 Election

 

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Beck to Lead a Holy Crusade to Israel?

Glenn Beck recently announced on his radio show that he is planning to hold a rally in Jerusalem sometime in August called “Restoring Courage.” This of course will be his Holy Land version of his “Restoring Honor” rally last August in Washington D.C.

I cannot imagine anything more ludicrous than Glenn Beck presuming to hold a rally in Israel named “Restoring Courage”. Talk about being clueless. Of all the countries in the world, he’s going to go to Israel and presume to take his act there and tell the Israeli people about courage?

What makes this more ludicrous is the fact Beck is a borderline anti-Semite. I’m sure he’ll just be adored in Jerusalem. Of course with Beck’s ego he’ll probably demand to enter the city on a white colt and have palm fronds thrown on the ground in front of him.

I’m really surprised he hasn’t scheduled it during the Passover, and then claim he didn’t know; like last year when he held is DC rally on the anniversary of Dr. King’s, “I Have A Dream” speech and then claimed he didn’t know it was the same date.

Beck recently visited Israel and Jerusalem, and he’s been doing his best Billy Graham impression, warning his listeners of impending disaster in Israel, because of a “two state solution that cuts off Jerusalem” from the world. Something no one has proposed, except in Beck’s frazzled mind.

“God is involved in man’s affairs, but so is the force of darkness,” Beck preached ominously. “I believe I’ve been asked to stand in Jerusalem. Many in the history of man have had the opportunity to stand with the Jewish people…and they have failed.” He asked listeners to “stand with me, in Jerusalem” in August.

So, now Glenn Beck has elevated himself to the roll of Prophet? He believes he’s been asked to stand in Jerusalem? He wants is listeners – aka his congregation – to go to Israel with him and to have a Glenn Beck crusade there?

He’s calling his Jerusalem crusade another “life altering event” (the same verbiage he used to hype his evangelical meeting in the DC) but now there’s a twist, it seems the powers of the Adversary are opposed to Beck and he’s warning his followers that the “very gates of hell” would fight his attempts to hold his rally.

OK, it’s official. He’s certifiable. He’s now declared he’s speaking for God, and that Satan is opposing him. Maybe Glenn he’s not opposing you, maybe he’s all the voices you’re listening to.

As I’ve said before, God works in mysterious ways, not stupid ways.

 
 

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Florida terrorist leader oversees Quran burning

The Florida terrorist who decided not to burn a Quran last fall on the anniversary of 9/11 led a mock trial, and then exalted in the burning of the Islamic holy book on Sunday after it was found “guilty” by members his terrorist cell.

Terry Jones, leader of the infamous Dove World Outreach Center, acted as the supreme judge in the self-styled trial at his terrorist training facility in Gainesville, Fla.

The fanatical religious leader denied he had broken earlier promises not to burn a Quran, and considered the “International Judge the Quran Day” to be a much fairer way of addressing the Islamic holy book. But of course he didn’t think he was a breaking a promise, I’m sure his God finds it perfectly OK to burn a sacred book on the Sabbath. Jones no doubt thinks he will be rewarded one day with 70 virgins for his efforts.

“We still don’t feel that we broke our word — that was in relationship to International Burn a Quran Day,” he said. What he says he promised earlier was that his group “… would not establish another International Burn a Quran Day.”

Ah yes, that makes it OK. So, if Al Qaeda were to promise it wouldn’t fly any more air planes into buildings, it would still be OK to blow up a school somewhere? After all, they promised not to use any more air planes.

Jones will no doubt have his reward one day, but it won’t be anyone singing his praises, well maybe there will be a few, a rather select group of other book burners from history; I’m sure that Adolph and company will reserve a special seat for the “Reverend” and his “followers”. Until that day comes, he should be placed in a nice cell next to others who promote hatred and terror in a happy little place called Gitmo.

 

 
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Posted by on April 4, 2011 in Islam, Lunatics, Racism, Religion, Right Wing Crazies

 

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GOTP presidential hopefuls hammer health care, have nothing new to offer? Nope not one new idea, just more of the same old tripe they’re always scooping out …

And so, it’s 20 some odd months until Election Day 2012 and a very small group of potentially high-profile Grand Old Tea Party (or the group formerly known as Republican) candidates show up like the early spring honey bee hoping to impress the equally small hundred or so conservative activists Saturday in Des Moines, Iowa that most Americans (that would be GOTP, Independent and the very small smattering of Democratic voters) agree with their particularly odd variation of “values”, and opposition to all and everything President Obama represents, but mostly his socialistic health care overhaul; and that all of this could somehow magically help the GOTP make historic gains in 2012.

One of the most incredible long shots in political history, except for possibly with this year’s gathering of right-wing odd balls and fruit cakes is Michigan Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, who not surprisingly is a huge a tea party favorite, and who – also not surprisingly – got the noisiest reception when she told the “huge” hundred plus crowd gathered that voters are ready to overturn the federal health care law and oust President Barack Obama during next year’s election.

“The ultimate arrogance, in my opinion, is Obama-care,” Bachman said. “That’s why I am so absolutely confident in 2012. Americans have made the decision that we’re going to take our country back.”

Ah yes, the perennial GOTP favorite line, “we’re going to take our country back.” But to where do you want to take it, and for whom Congresswoman? Are we going back to 2008? Back to those happy carefree days of Bush/Cheney when habeas corpus was suspended on a whim if your name had Mohamed in it, or before our military was free from Gays and Lesbos? Or back to the pre-Camelot days before all those pesky Black people dared to eat at the same lunch counter?

Of course the Newt was there, and the deep south’s Haley Barbour and even former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain spoke to add a splash color to the Midwest white bread event as the token conservative African-American, since Justice Clarence Thomas was unable to attend due not being sure how to bill the gathering and still at least try to appear impartial on the bench.

But why Iowa you ask? Is it because it’s a field of dreams, and hopefully Newt, Barbour and company will all walk into the corn and finally fade away? Or is it simply because event organizer, Iowa Congressman Steve King, believes that his home state, the state where the nation’s first presidential caucus will take place, is the proper venue to help conservatives shape the debate as members of the GOTP begin looking for a candidate to run against Obama.

“We need to take this nation to the next level of its destiny,” King told the crowd. “You can shape that destiny.”

Of course with Bachman, Newt and Barbour that “next level of its destiny” can only mean backwards or farther off the cliff of economic collapse started during the last administration.

While Iowa is the traditional launch pad for the presidential nominating season, when one sees the sharply conservative rhetoric from Saturday’s little rally, allegedly reflecting an Iowa GOTP that’s drifted not just to the right, but to the far right, coupled with some polling data from last year showing more than 60 percent of GOTP caucus-goers there are identifying themselves as not only Christians but evangelicals, you have the makings of a gold old fashioned revival meeting, the type where Mormons – such as Mitt Romney – need not apply; of course it’s also then going to be an evangelical crowd that’s going to have a hard time getting its arms around a two time adulterer, or a deep south nominee, which leaves the nomination wide open for Huckleberry, Bachman and Palin. How wonderful.

Interestingly enough Newt insisted that most Americans agree with his conservative values, with the Newtster actually saying the 2012 election would provide a chance to end the “domination of the left and move this country back to the center-right.”

That would be the center right where family values stands for cheating on not just one but two spouses, marrying each mistress in turn and then claiming you couldn’t control your hormones because of your deep seated love of country?

Haley said the GOTP can win next year if their candidates stay focused on key issues — health care and balancing the federal budget — without getting distracted by arguments about personality. Of course by balancing the budget he means zeroing out any progressive programs, while continuing to cut taxes to the top 2% of the nation’s population and allowing defense spending to maintain its unabashed feeding frenzy.

“What is important to us is to have a new president,” Barbour said. “This election needs to be about policy.”

That’s right. It’s all about the policy of taking our country back to a time when uppity folks like foreign born blacks knew their place, isn’t that right Governor? It’s about an America where homos and lesbians weren’t allowed in polite society, and it’s about the America where the term foreign policy meant telling our allies to shut up, sit down and do what we told them to do.

During the “event”, the speakers all focused on criticizing President Obama and the Democratic Party, and the Newter even took the time to say how he “helped balance a budget for four straight years” while House speaker. That of course was due more largely to the efforts to his fellow philanderer President Clinton, than for anything he himself managed to do, between his own affairs while impeaching the President for his infidelity.

But of course, Newty also took the opportunity to attack – yet again – President Obama’s handling of the air strikes in Libya. He ridiculed Obama for consulting the Arab League and the United Nations, but not Congress, before getting involved. The Newt said he wouldn’t have approved the air strikes, even though he pushed for air strikes and a no-fly zone just a week or two before the President implemented that very policy, but said Newt, “once you get involved, you put on the pressure and you win quickly.” As compared to becoming bogged down in not one but two wars with absolutely any exit policy, clear cut goals or objectives.

Cain, who decided to be the one speaker not talking about the federal health care law, said the conservative movement is gaining strength and will help the GOTP “take back the government”.

He does understand that the GOTP’s version of “taking back” the government would mean he’d be serving them the pizza, and driving Miss Daisy around town, doesn’t he? Taking the country back doesn’t mean equality for Blacks, Hispanics, Gays or Lesbians. It’s taking the country back to the happier times of Herbert Hoover before Labor Unions and desegregated class rooms.

Seeming to be oblivious to all of this, and believing the fact that since he’s a wealthy black man meant he shared in the GOTP dream, he said the U.S. has “an entitlement spending crisis” that must be reformed in order to solve the nation’s financial woes. Being the GOTP code for throwing the poor and the elderly out on the street where they belong. Cutting social security benefits to the disabled, cutting WIC and women’s pre-natal and health care, slashing college loan programs to the poor and zeroing public broadcasting, and arts programs.

“We don’t like the radical socialist agenda that is being shoved down our throats,” he said.

And what he wanted to say is we don’t like the idea that the poor can have free health care, and have their standard of living increased, and that we have a minimum wage and child labor laws and the like, and that he could’ve made much higher profits if only he could’ve paid lower salaries or could’ve had five and six your olds slaving away in his pizza kitchens.

Meanwhile, Bach on the farm, the Congresswoman from Michigan steered things back onto the effort to repeal the health care reform law and said that American’s bad feelings for the law had created a strong tide of support for the GOTP positioning itself for next year’s election.

“It’s never gone below a majority of Americans who want to see Obama-care repealed,” Bachmann said. “This is, I believe, the greatest power grab that I have ever seen.”

Really, “it’s never gone below a majority of Americans who want to see Obama-care repealed”? While that might be true of any Rasmussen poll, in the world outside of the FOC PAC bubble the clear majority doesn’t want it repealed, and is happy with the law. And are you really serious when you claim this is the greatest power grab you’ve ever seen Congresswoman? So, one can only assume you either haven’t paid any attention to the whole political coup thing in Wisconsin? Or, you wholeheartedly agree with it?

Bachman exhorted the hundred or so listeners that the stakes in next year’s election are enormous, and that “what we are going to determine together, here in Iowa, is quite frankly whether we will pass the American Dream on to the next generation.”

Of course that’s the American dream of white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian evangelicals. Not the one that includes people of color – except to clean the house, repair the roof, pick the vegetables and maybe collect your garbage. It’s also not the American Dream of any of those darned Muslims and their Mohamed; it’s not the American Dream of religious freedom, unless you strictly uphold to the idea that America is a Christian nation; of course it’s a Christian nation that is largely denying the Christ, and his teachings regarding caring for the poor and the sick among us, and of brotherly love etc. It’s the Evangelical Christian American Dream of the Old Testament where Gays are stoned to death, and only white people get to be President. It’s the American Dream of preemptive warfare and unending tax cuts and never having to pay the bill for the Wild West diplomacy.

 

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How Christians and Muslims Should Relate

Christians form a ring around Muslims to protect them during their prayers at demonstrations in Cairo, Egypt.

In Cairo, Christians protect Muslims while they pray; in America, Christians protest Muslims building a Community Center. Makes one ponder the question, “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

 
 

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Progressives are “Enemies to God”?

According to Reverend Beck, progressives are now “enemies of God”. It simply wasn’t enough ( meaning he had to up the ante to earn better ratings) to call progressives socialists, communists and Nazis – which of course is a complete oxymoron, but then again so is Beck – now progressives are labeled “enemies of God”. And of course if Reverend Beck says it, well, then it must be so.


On his 21 Jan 11 edition of Premiere Radio Networks’ The Glenn Beck Program, Beck stated the “Founding Fathers” sought to promote enlightenment, empowerment and entrepreneurship.

“There are another set of founders in America — the founders of the progressive movement. They know this system as well,” Beck said. “And they also know all thought is creative. So now let’s just quickly look at what they’ve (progressives) done. They have distanced God from people. They have discredited him, distanced him, made him into a joke, denied his existence or, at best, just confused him with social justice and everything else — just confused him.”

This is the whole; they’re “enemies of God” stuff. After all progressives – according to Beck – have “discredited” God, “distanced” God, made God “into a joke”, “denied” God’s “existence”, or the best, progressives have “just confused” God “with social justice and everything else.” The “social justice” and “everything else” of course would be those evil parts of the progressive movement where we’re all supposed to help each other, help pull each other up and lift one another, nothing like the conservative view of Christianity, which is screw your neighbor, if you want to find a righteous man look for a rich man, after all if he’s rich God must have blessed him with it, and of course that means if you’re poor you must be sinful. Let’s just forget about the whole Sermon on the Mount, and that camel fitting through the eye of the needle nonsense.

Reverend Beck is as obtuse as they come when it comes to the subject of God or religion. He chooses to ignore all the best tenants of Christianity because they get in his way, just as they get in the way of Limbaugh, Hannity et al. If the top 2% (meaning those who have the majority of the wealth in our country) spent more time creating jobs and helping to take care of the poor, then the government wouldn’t have too. Unfortunately their credo is becoming more and more, (in my very rudimentary Latin) “Ut quod mei est mei, quod ut quod vestri est mei, sic combibo is sursum” or “That which is mine is mine, and that which yours is mine, so suck it up”.

 
 

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